Wednesday, January 23, 2013

Is Yahweh Pro-life?

During a recent conversation on abortion on Alan Nunnelee's page, I saw the following comment:


I'd like to debunk Mr. Cox's claim that his god (Yahweh) will not tolerate murder of the unborn and I intend to do it using the Bible, Yahweh's holy book that is supposed to be the inerrant, literal word of this deity.

Genesis 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

There were undoubtedly pregnant women on the earth at this time so Yahweh drowned an incredible number of innocent unborn with the Flood.

Genesis 19:24-25  Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

There were pregnant women in those cities too. Their innocent unborns were murdered.

Genesis 38:24 And it came to pass about three months after, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt.

Judah, and ancestor of Jesus, orders the death of the woman he knocked up including her innocent unborn. He obviously doesn't think Yahweh will have a problem with it since burning whores is the law.

Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

Granted, we aren't dealing with unborns here but we do have Yahweh indiscriminately slaughtering the oldest children of every family. How would you feel if God killed your oldest child because of something Obama did? Also, were the firstborn young children not innocent too?

Exodus 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

Yahweh decrees that the innocent unborn are worth whatever price (in coin or barter) that the father decides and the judges determine. It is not equivalent to a living being.

Leviticus 25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

Again, this isn't dealing with unborns per se but it does show that Yahweh puts only a monetary value on gentile children. They have no legal personhood.

Leviticus 27:6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.

Any unborn or child under one month of age has no value.

Numbers 3:14 -15 And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness of Sinai, saying, Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them.

One again, if you're under one month of age, you have no value. You aren't even counted. And this isn't some Old Testament crap that Moses dreamed up. The LORD told him to do it this way.

Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

If you kill every woman who has had sex, you are bound to kill some fertilized eggs, embryos, and fetuses too. Yahweh doesn't seem to care. Oh and while you're at it, capture and rape the little girls.

Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

Women with child shall be ripped up. Infants dashed into pieces. God is intolerant of the murder of unborns? He glories in it.

These are just a few verses picked out to let Yahweh have his say about pro-life matters. I encourage you to read these verses in context and let the full horror of Yahweh wash over you.

And for those who want to excuse it with, "Oh, that's the Old Testament. It's been done away with since Jesus," and all that tripe, you need to understand: you cannot take this view and then quote obscure verses from the rest of the Old Testament about knowing you in the womb and such. If you dismiss the verses above, you must stop quoting the other ones too.

I leave to Mr. Cox and his friends to now try to contort and dodge their way out of this. I'll leave them with a final thought:

Don't be mad at me. I'm just telling you what God says!

15 comments:

  1. I would like to debunk the flu vaccination using the Cochraine review on flu jabs.

    The top ten claims were basically implausable at best and only a flu vaccine believer could ever even begin to actually consider going for one on claims of health protection.

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  2. Does this comment belong somewhere else?

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  3. Ah the septicus editus steps in like some catholic high priest, terrified that the lies in the work will be exposed.

    These septic sites are like pus filled cups, out there trying to find the good evidence that shows up their own limited perspective and then direct efforts via the anal ORAC and Barreticus towards total annihilation of evidence.

    The Catholic church did this with things like burning people who proved the vacuum.

    If you see Septicat tell her that changing her diet will have more impact than any meds she is taking, the poor girl needs help.

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  4. I deleted my previous comment because you aren't who I thought you were. In fact, I don't think we know you. If you'd like to discuss vaccinations, feel free to come to our Facebook page and talk about it sensibly. Don't hijack an irrelevant post and then write a bunch of nonsense.

    You are welcome to voice your disagreement and to dissent here but you will do it sensibly and relevantly. If you persist in commenting under the wrong thread, talking nonsense, or flinging personal insults, you will be banned.

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  5. London, let me further say that I am Skepticat from the U.S. I am not - nor am I affiliated with Skepticat U.K.

    So you're pissing on the wrong doorstep.

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  6. There is a striking similarity between the words of Yahweh and those of the CDC and NIH. They both preach complete bull about things they claim authority about, for Yahweh it's double dealing on life/death and for the former it's certainly about the value of vaccination.

    Highlighting this parody seemed totally appropriate here.

    So it's your blog, you make the rules and I would be happy to comment here on these issues but can't see where to pick up the gauntlet so if you let me know where I will oblige.

    Skepticat Uk said she was posting over here so I thought I'd do a bit of sparring, so sorry to associate you with that pile of fluff, she has a habit of deleting anything that questions the good book of pubmed or CDC, again just like our catholic twatheren and then claim the moral high ground when medicine is obviously failing her sadly, if that's not a paradox maybe it's a joke?

    I look forward to a frank and honest exchange and thank you for the heads up.

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  7. Thank you for responding in a manner that I can understand. I noticed that you came from "The Litter Box Revisited." I blogged there as "Skepticat" but I am not Skepticat UK who is pro-vax. I think you were looking for this site: http://www.skepticat.org/

    We have not discussed vaccines on this blog that I can recall offhand. If we do at a future date, you are more than welcome to drop by and discuss the evidence.

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  8. That's refreshing a skeptic who has realized that vaccination is woo, I'm impressed.

    Keep up the work on religious double standards, it's so parallel to the work of companies like Roche who preach the value of anti virals and flu woo.

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  9. Again, there seems to be some confusion. We accept the science regarding vaccines while acknowledging that some pharmaceutical companies engage in deceptive and misleading practices.

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    1. Uh, I thought you didn't subscribe to Yahweh science, why do you just accept the medical science regarding vaccines?

      Have you read the Cochraine review on the flu vaccine?

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    2. Again, we are not having this discussion on this thread. Case closed.

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  10. "We accept the science regarding vaccines while acknowledging that some pharmaceutical companies engage in deceptive and misleading practices." Skepticat US

    Isn't that a religious conviction? You have to be a vaccine believer to accept the data used to support efficacy claims is fraudulent!

    You took apart Yahweh for double standards on life what's the difference here?

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    1. Please keep comments relevant to the post at hand and avoid hijacking or the derailing of post in the future.


      Thank you

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  11. Talking to the Jehovah's witness provokes shut down, same with scientology.

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    1. Please keep comments relevant to the post at hand and avoid hijacking or the derailing of post in the future.


      Thank you

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